Seriously people, whats with all this 'guys dig curves' garbage? Yea right! If guys dig curves, than why is the stick-thin image promoted? And why do guys only date mainly skinny girls whose legs don't even touch when they walk?
Anyone else in high school notice this? Do you think it's just our age?
Im not very curvy... so I look like I am 12... so guys just see me as statutory rape! ha ha ha!!!
Original Post by shanonna:
"I didn't mean it harshly, I just believe that too many people get called or call themselves "curvy" as an excuse for an unhealthy BMI."
*sigh* A girl doesn't NEED an excuse to have an unhealthy bmi. Everyone's body is their own and how you choose to describe it is your own too. Why does a fat girlhave no right to have confidence in herself and refer to herself kindly? I would much rather overweight young women were encouraged to see themselves as curvy and love themselves for who they are and not define themselves by numbers, hate themselves for being overweight and call themselves fat. Whether you mean it or not you are being harsh. I'm overweight, I'm trying to lose but I'm still trying to love myself because there is more to me than the number of the scale or my weight in relation to my height. And while you are on a weight loss journey it is important to remember that. You don't have any right to decide how a woman defines her body and I'm glad you don't because I'd be staring in a mirror right now sobbing rather than having the confidence to know I'm hot, fat or thin.
Okay, you're very right about the fact that overweight girls should have confidence, and I think you're wonderful to say that you feel hot, whether you are fat or thin. I think that attitude is what everyone needs to feel! All I'm saying is that I grew up believing that curvy refers to hip structure, boobs, and butt, not extra weight. But I also believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I respect the fact that you call yourself curvy. :]
I don't mean to get preachy about stuff like this I really don't I just get quite upset about sutff like this.
Quite alright, I love a good debate sometimes.
ITS YOUR AGE. In my experience, teenage boys think they are supposed to find a certain body type attractive, somewhat a peer pressure issue. When they get older, they may be more comfortable accepting the fact that they are not into skinny girls. Also, older men like WOMEN, (with breasts, hips and butts). I would try dating non-Americans as well, they have different standards regarding beauty.
Speaking for myself, I don't like girls who are really skinny. If I wanted to date a skeleton, I'd go clubbing at a graveyard. I prefer girls who are average to slighty-chunkier-than-average. There are few skinny girls who hit my radar, but they are exceptions and not the rule.
I don't have curves, but I've been asked out far more than a lot of my curvier friends.
But then again guys will ask me out, tell me I'm cute, then go run off with some other girl with killer curves. :|
But also when I've asked some guys about which they prefer, most of them do say they dig curves. But then when I asked them what they find most attractive about girls as far as physical attributes go, body types usually weren't first on their list.
Curves aren't everything...
I am a man who really loves a girl who has a good set of curves as long as its predominately healthy. ie. a good mix of fat and muscle. Anyway I think that age does have something to do with it as more and more teens pay attention to the newest thing stick figure out there and that thin is in although that is starting to change I think. I personally think I am more mature in what I want in a woman even though I have no experience...I say this mainly because I have never really been attracted to the girl that sends a gazillion mixed signals and plays like 20 mind games with 3 guys at a time which lets face it is the majority of girls in high school a little less in college but those girls usually have boyfriends who they adore....unfortunate for me... O well when the time will come.
It's mostly your age, but in large part social circles (also based heavily on geography, and ethnicity too). I've dated mostly white guys with a latino guy here and there, and they all prefer curvy girls to stick thin models. Additionally, most are sort of fascinated by a half asian girl with curves (my mother is Portuguese, therefore I was destined to never be skinny, no matter how hard i try).
Mostly, it's all about seeming proportional. Curves don't have to mean fat. My #s are 36/28/38 (trying to work on those ratios a bit) and i would much rather have that be stick thin.
Additionally, California (just not LA) may be a bit more forgiving to that since you do have more exposure to different body types, different groups, and different ethnicities (which to have common biological characteristics). If you're from the middle of nowhere, then there may be a more commonly accepted standard of beauty.
Just don't get discouraged. It's mostly just high school. In college and later in life, most guys start figuring out that what they want is not necessarily what magazines or TV tell them to want. We all find someone eventually.
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Im pretty sure you could have curves and be heavier-set, just as you could have a very thin waist and be mostly skinny and have curves.
But I dont think its good that large women be using the term 'curves' to feel good about themselves because being overweight is unhealthy anyways.
I think that highschool is full of a bunch of immature kids who are still growing up and are still very influenced as well.
And definetly, personality comes first, but you gotta be considering looks too, cause if a person isnt really maintaining a healthy lifestyle by being overweight, then that could be saying something about their personality.
I would go for a skinny girl over an overweight, or larger girl though.
Hahaha, this reminds me of the quote from Kathy Najimy
"If youre not blonde and thin, you develop a personality real quick."
Yea, for the most part it seems like guys like large chest-small waist-large hips, which, if youre a heavier girl with a large waist, it all looks 'thin' to you. All men are different though, and some do have fetishes for obese women, some are attracted to big girls, some(most) like the "all american" fit girl with t&a, and some like the Xylophone ribed girl who has a 'fast metabolism'.
I'm sure if every man made a 1-10 list in chronological order of what physical characteristics they noticed first, they would all be quite different. I dont understand the bone thin attraction though. I know I dated a boy for a while who had the boy version of the stick bug figure. I never asked but I would guess he was never a pound over 115 or 120, and it was actually rather unpleasant that he was so thin.
Nobody likes a rib bone suddenly jabbed into their breast while youre. . . cuddling, or a pelvis bone jutting into their inner thigh while you're . . . cuddling, or vertibres digging into your side when youre . . . cuddling.
But girls, what I have learned is that if you think youre hot and you act like you think your hot, men will beleive you. Everyone will beleive you. Look up, take your eyes off the floor of shame and look around, I bet you are more appreciated than you think.
"it doesn't matter what a woman looks like; if she's confident, she's sexy!" -Paris Hilton (lol i use this quote a lot, it's a favourite)
okay, okay, not the greatest of role models, but she has a point hey? everyone is always drawn to the one with the warm smile, great personality and is having a good time.. they catch your attention, and hold your attention. Sure a 70lb girl or a 500lb girl would catch your attention as well, but not exactly in a good way!
I'm sure we can all relate.
Grrr I can see I am in the minority here feeling that a woman has the right to call herself whatever she wants. I am so truly offended. Basically you're saying that a fat woman either has to learn to feel good about herself by using the words fat and obese which obviously have such negative connotations, or she has no right to feel good about herself at all! Because she is unhealthy. This is total bullcrap! You can be overweight and be curvy. and even if your not curvy in the hourglass sense who says a curve has to be concave anyway? I'm so angry about this attitude that people who probably have no idea what it is to be an overweight young woman and still try and hold your head up feel it is appropriate to even have an opinion on what a fat woman is allowed to call herself. And if you are wondering why I am so angry it is because you are directly insulting me and your doing it in such a nonchalant fashion I want to scream. I feel like posting naked pictures of myself with little curved arrows pointing out my curves.
Also you are lumping all fat people together when you are probably thinking of apple shaped women no? Women who's stomach is larger than their breasts, not all fat women look like that you know. And those women shouldn't have to feel ugly either they can call themselves whatever they want. You can be fat and curvy and I am and so are many others. You tell me please why the word curvy should only be used by healthy people? Because it has positive connotations which are only allowed to be used by those who eat right n exercise? So us fat girls should just go die in our corner with words like fat **** and chubby and obese and rotund hovering over our heads until we are thin and beautiful enough to be allowed to choose our own terms for defining our own bodies.
You aren't aware you're doing it, but you are pulling people down.
shanonna, a woman can call herself whatever she wishes. if someone wants to call themselves 'curvy', then by all means. if she wants to call herself 'healthy', she can do that too. she can call herself 'skinny', 'thin', 'ideal', whatever.
that, however, doesn't make it true.
as others have stated, the term 'curvy' is not synonymous with 'overweight'. it refers to a person's natural structure. not everyone who is curvy is overweight and not everyone who is overweight it is curvy. some overweight people are curvy, some are not.
honestly, you are getting offended over people clarifying the original definition of a term. no one is saying that you should not feel good about yourself. if you are unhealthily overweight, then no, i do not believe that you should feel good about that aspect perse, but your weight is not all that you are made up of. please do continue to feel good about yourself and who you are.
what i, and i think others in this thread, take issue with, is that certain terms are being misused and misconstrued in relation with the fat acceptance movement. people (not you specifically. i don't even know your stats) are basically lying to themselves by sugar coating the truth about their physical state by calling themselves 'curvy', 'healthy', 'real women', etc.
as i said before, everyone is free to call themselves whatever they want. if you feel you are curvy, then call yourself curvy.
just understand that not everyone will agree.
And people aren't clarifying a definition, they are directly sayin an overweight woman shouldn't call herself curvy cos she's not, she's just fat. Well I can't help but be offended by that. I don't understand why you take ussue with it when it has nothing to do with you or anyone else what someone calls themselves. Why exactly do you feel an urge to have an opinion of it. How dare fat women call themselves curvy when they clearly aren't. You can't say on one hand by allmeans call yourself whatever you want and on the other, I take issue with what you call yourself.
We all have opinions about other people, how they define themselves but ultimately it's none of our business really is it?
Original Post by cypris:
Nobody likes a rib bone suddenly jabbed into their breast while youre. . . cuddling, or a pelvis bone jutting into their inner thigh while you're . . . cuddling, or vertibres digging into your side when youre . . . cuddling.
"Cuddling" LOL!
about the whole curves/fat thing:
I agree that using the word 'curves' to justify being overweight is a bad thing. But you CAN have sexy curves and still be overweight. Its all about how you carry your fat. I know a girl who is obviously overweight, but because she carries her fat on her body well she's still very attractive and gets more attention from guys than I do. So yea, someone can have curves and be overweight. Someone can also be overweight and completely healthy. My 49 year old mom weighs a little over 200 pounds at 5'8, and whenever she goes to the doctor she blows him away with how healthy she is. She can also push a HUGE OLD crown victoria uphill with her 3 teenage daughters inside it, alone, when it quit a while back. No, i'm not exaggerating. This woman is STRONG. :)
SO, it depends on the individual person.
Original Post by swimchick_123:
She can also push a HUGE OLD crown victoria uphill with her 3 teenage daughters inside it, alone, when it quit a while back. No, i'm not exaggerating. This woman is STRONG. :)
I'm just wondering why her 3 teenage daughters didn't hop out to help??? Ok, maybe 2 of ya could while the other steered.
Anyway, curves are sexy- my husband wants me to weigh 150, not 130. Although, my goal is to reach 130...we'll see. It is all up to the person judging the woman though... and yeah, I agree that most guys in highschool are immature and go for the skinniest girl. You'll see things are different in the real world =)
Original Post by gingerkabureck:
Original Post by swimchick_123:
She can also push a HUGE OLD crown victoria uphill with her 3 teenage daughters inside it, alone, when it quit a while back. No, i'm not exaggerating. This woman is STRONG. :)
I'm just wondering why her 3 teenage daughters didn't hop out to help??? Ok, maybe 2 of ya could while the other steered.
Anyway, curves are sexy- my husband wants me to weigh 150, not 130. Although, my goal is to reach 130...we'll see. It is all up to the person judging the woman though... and yeah, I agree that most guys in highschool are immature and go for the skinniest girl. You'll see things are different in the real world =)
lol, cause she was trying to be manly and wouldn't let us.
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