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| 130/120 Club? |  danareale |
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| #681 | jredig |
Feb 04 2008 18:17 |
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Welcome Paulajmcd!
It is never to late to join, this groups is ongoing… So welcome aboard, congrats on your success so far. I know you can keep it up and rock that bikini by the end of march. Can you tell us more about yourself, like what you do diet and exercise wise? simignonne- congrats on the weight too! I was on tricyclen low for 2 years. I was pretty nauseous the first few months. (But it was also the first time ever being on BC) I took mine in the morning, before breakfast. Then I started to make an effort to eat something right before I took it and i felt must better. And after a few months I noticed that even if I did not eat, it usually did not bother me. So I would give it some time. I was pretty happy with it after the first few months of blah (very low hormone which was important to me). I noticed I was more emotional on it, though. But i think that is the case with all hormonal BC. Now i use the Nuvo ring (for almost a year now) because I like the convenience of only thinking about it every three weeks. (And no nausea ever b/c it is a consistent slow dose throughout the day). I recommend it, if it does not weird you out. (My sis has also been on it 2 years and really likes it too) Most everything in your body is made of protein. You need protein to build, maintain and grow your body – it IS your body’s building blocks. Protein is broken down into its subunits called amino acids which are used to build the proteins we need in our body. Our bodies can also make energy from protein. So eating lots of protein is especially important when eating a deficit and upping your exercise because the exercise will tear down your muscle and without the proper supply of incoming protein, it will stay broken down and you can actually lose muscle mass. This is why post-workout meals are so important to immediately supply your body with material to rebuild with and provide an insulin spike, to stop the cortisol increase (from the workout). (Cortisol will breakdown your muscle and cause you to store fat – all very bad). And while you do not need to be militant about it, eat your protein from a variety of sources, plant and animal. This will help ensure you are not being limited by any one amino acid deficiency. (As you body can manufacture some amino acids out of others; but others are “essential” and must be eaten. Some say we can only absorb around 30 g of protein in one sitting -- this is one reason why 5-6 meals a day (all with with protein) are important. Whether this is all your body can use in a sitting is still debated, though. Protein takes longer to digest (than carbs). And will help regulate your blood sugar if eaten throughout the day (5-6 meals). And steady insulin-levels throughout the day is the best way to lose fat and gain/maintain muscle. (Also good to prevent diabetes, my dad is a diabetic controlled by diet and exercise by eating like this) Actually eating protein and fiber with carbs can actually reduce the insulin spike that would be associated with just eating the carb (even if you are eating more food). So before you eat that apple (which will send your blood sugar soaring, triggering your insulin to increase, which will in turn reduce your blood sugar; and leave you more tired and hungry than you began) think about eating a ¼ cup of almonds with it. You will notice a difference. (the fats in the almonds will also further slow the digestion of the sugars) Carbohydrates on the other hand are only energy and do not supply the building blocks needed. Fats are also important (not to be over-eaten because of heart health) but also needed to build our bodies. All cell membranes need them. Hope that helps! |
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| #682 | simignonne |
Feb 04 2008 18:57 |
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As always thanks a lot for the information jredig! You are a wealth of information! I tried having yogurt after my work out on Friday. I think I'll try that again today. I'm pretty excited about tricyclen, even though mine isn't the low version, just the normal one. I switched from a different brand which was making me pretty depressed as well as giving me tons of migranes. I'm already noticing a difference, four days in, I'm happier and I haven't had a headache every day. I can't wait to see what this does to help my work outs and body image! Here's an idea, let's all post goals (reasonable) by the end of Feb. (the 29th). I'm going to say... I want to weigh 126 and be able to do cardio for 45 minutes without stopping. How about you guys!? I think it would be a great way for us to motivate each other. I know that all of your comments so far have meant the world as far as weight loss! |
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| #683 | jredig |
Feb 04 2008 19:22 |
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I hope you are happier with your new BC. They can really wreck havoc sometimes. Why did you not go on the low? (may I ask?)
I love that idea (I always have a million small goals on the way to my big one). 1) I want to be 134.6#. 2) I want to be curling the 55# EZ-bar for 3 sets of 8 reps (currently can do sets of 7-7-6 with the 55# and I find it really hard to move up here) 3) I want to be decline benching 90#, 3 sets of 10 reps. (currently 12-14-14 at 80#) 4) I want to squat (low) 135# for 3 sets of 10 reps, (currently 125# 14-12-10) |
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| #684 | rennai |
Feb 04 2008 20:00 |
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Hello all!
I think i've been a little MIA, sorry about that. I hope you all had a good weekend, or at least better than mine! I ate like a champ on Saturday but messed it up with too much to drink that night. I was upset all day yesterday for putting so much poison into my body. I mean it wasn't that much I guess but still! Then I ate whatever I wanted yesterday to make my stomach feel better. Lucky for me I'm still at 130! simignonne- I agree with Jen on this one, Nuva ring is the way to go. I was on tricyclen Lo for a few years and heard good things about the ring so I switched. I would never go back. It's really convenient, plus the added bonus of a constant hormone supply. The benefit is no mood swings, no nausea, and I've found my food cravings decreased too. I actually lost about 5 lbs when I switched to the ring! Paulajmcd- Welcome, I'm a newbie too and everyone here is super supportive. I think you will find it much easier to acheive your goals. I've started the 6 meal a day program as of today. I think maybe not eating often enough probably is causing my 130 lb plateau. I've decided to eat every two hours starting at 8am and ending at 6pm. It's really hard for me to stick with a workout routine due to a hectic schedule but I'm going to set a goal of 4 days/week and stick to it! I almost forgot, protein! I've upped my consuption and I'm still feeling sick but maybe I'll adjust to the new intake level. The powder I have says "rich in BCAAs and L-Glutamine". It also says whey protein concentrate, isolate and calcium caseinate. Not really sure what that means but I know one person who will explain it ;) I bought the veggie links too with 10g of protein and just had one for lunch. It was pretty good, i'll let you know how it makes me feel a bit later. I also had 2 mornigstar farms sausage patties (vegetarian) this morning, 80 cals and 10g of protein each. You know my stomach hurt! That's ok though, they're really good (a bit high in sodium though). Stay strong! |
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| #685 | jredig |
Feb 04 2008 20:38 |
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rennai -- good to have you back. We all know those weekends :) I think you have a great attitude, climb back on that bandwagon. Glad to hear you are starting the 6 meals a day. I think you will love it (I will never go back -- I do not know how others survive on 2-3 meals a day) I asked about whether it is concentrate or isolate (which it sounds like it is both) because the concentrate has lactose in it. And I am wondering if you are a little lactose intolerant. (I am) You may want to try a whey powder that is isolate (no/minimal lactose) and look for ones with added lactase to help digest that lactose. this may help (and use soy or rice milk). You also have casein in you powder (a slower metabolizing protein compared to the whey). This just depends on what you are using it for, short or long-acting. Extra L-glutamine is great (often a limiting amino acid, that is often taken as a supplement for the serious bodybuildings and those BCAA (branched-chain amino acids) I was talking about. OoOO I like those morningstar patties. Note: some are intolerant to both cow and soy milk, in which case you may want to try rice (much fewer people are bothered by this). Is it all protein sources that bother you? or just the shakes, are other soy products ok? (If it is only some soy products that bother you, you might want to note the gluten (wheat) content -- as you could have celiacs disease) are meat or eggs ok? If you never do good with whey or casein powders (even if isolate) you may be intolerant to lactobumins (this often occurs with a skin reaction though). If your powder is hydolyzed (I do not think yours is, unless you can find that word on it) that should alleviate this problem (if your case is mild). Downside is these powders cost a little more and tastes bitter. (It is what I use though) Also trying to spread out your at-risk food consumption can help. I am lactose intolerant but have worked my way up to tolerate 2 glasses of milk if spread out over the day but if I drink 16 oz in one sitting -- I will regret it. And trying to avoid sugar alcohols like malitol, sorbitol, and glycerol, as they are are easily fermented by the gut and can cause problems. These are commonly found in protein bars (and why I make homemade ones). Sorry I am picking you apart. I just feel bad for your tummy :( |
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| #686 | rennai |
Feb 04 2008 21:53 |
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No, I totally appreciate it! I'm not lactose intolerant though, at all. It's only with protein that I'm experiencing the issues and it is just horrible pain without any other effects (that I can tell anyway). I had the gluten thought but how would I know? Would i need to go get tested? As far as I can tell it has been when I use protein supplements like shakes or bars and today when I ate the veggie patties and hot dog thing. So maybe it's just a shock to my system to have to digest so much protein when I haven't had much in the last few years or maybe something more serious... I have no idea :) I hope it stops though because after lunch I've been dying!
The 6 meals thing is really hard for me so far :) How can you eat when you aren't hungry? I'm so full and am still supposed to eat 2 more times. And I've only had 740 calories today so I know i need more but i'm soooo not hungry. Choke it down? :) |
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| #687 | jredig |
Feb 04 2008 22:11 |
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if your stomach is upset I can see how you would not be hungry. But i always have at least a snack (100 calories) every 3 hours of less.
If you are going from a very low protein diet, you may want to scale up slowly and see if that helps. your poor liver just might not be up to the task yet :) I would scale up, adding 10 g or so every 3 day and see how you do. You can get tested at an allergy clinic for all of those intolerances. You can also just try monkeyign with your diet -- cut out all wheat for a week and see how it goes, then soy... You should notice a difference. So does that mean eggs and chicken bothers you too? |
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| #688 |  caitlyn19 |
Feb 05 2008 01:11 |
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Hi, everyone! This is so perfect! I was looking for a thread like this. I am 5'4" and currently weigh 128 but am trying to get down to 124. I know it's not much of a loss, but it would make feel better/healthier. The lowest I've been is 123-124 but that was only when I wasn't eating because of nausea. I am a sophomore in college and last year, at the start of freshman year, I weighed about 132. After freshman year ended, I was 128 so I actually lost weight. After my first semester of sophomore year, I ended up losing another 3-4 lbs and weighing 124-125. I think that was because I was severely restricting my eating which I know is extremely unhealthy. Be at home with little exercise over winter break for 5 weeks helped me gain back those 3-4 pounds, plus a few more. Now I am back on track and working really hard to lose those pounds. I was doing really well for a week and I generally still do well eating and exercise wise but I find just one day can make my weight fluctuate 2-3 pounds, depending on how much I consumed. I refuse to focus on the negative though. I am feeling better about myself because of this site so that's really all I could ask for! |
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| #689 | collinsj617 |
Feb 05 2008 02:23 |
| Simignonne - i think it is a great idea to post goals for end of February. I am currently at 129 and my goal is to be 127 by end of Feb. Good luck to everyone! | ||
| #690 | rennai |
Feb 05 2008 03:18 |
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Welcome Caitlyn! I know what it's like to over restrict, we only end up hurting ourselves though since our bodies then want to hang on to every calorie. Who knew the secret to shedding pounds was eating! Join me on the helathy path, I know it's hard at first, but I will support you!
Jen- I can eat chicken, eggs, turkey etc. with no problems. I looked at the protein I had today and the 2 main ingredients are soy protein and wheat gluten. I don't see how I could really have an intolerance to either though since I've eaten them for so long (tofu, edamame, and EVERYTHING with gluten) without problems. Maybe the sugar alcohols. I'm going to experiment and let you know! Good night to all! |
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| #691 | jredig |
Feb 05 2008 04:55 |
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Welcome caitlyn!
It may not be much but we all know how hard those last few pounds can be :) Glad you like it here. Keep us posted. And please tell us what you are doing diet and exercise wise. rennai -- know that you can always develop an intolerance overtime too (especially if there are hormonal changes, ie starting/stopping B.C. can make you more/less sensitive, so I would not rule it out) Sounds like a intolerance to soy, milk (lactose and/or lactobumins) or both, all very common... Also keep in mind that a mild milk-intolerance might be brought out with protein shakes because the proteins are so much more concentrated compared to regular milk. Also the concentration of gluten in the soy patties may be higher than you get through other sources, it may all be a matter of degrees... Try eating half a patty maybe? Keep us posted on your results. The fact that meat and eggs do not bother you, suggest to me one or both of the intolerances above, and not an overall problem with your ability to digest protein. (So i doubt quantity is the problem as much as the source). Good news :) TMI alert: I notice the main affect of the alchohol sugars is that they make me gassy but I know some get stomach aches. (southbeach bars are pretty bad, 3g) |
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| #692 | simignonne |
Feb 05 2008 14:56 |
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Today I'm at 129 again. I'm pretty impressed, I thought maybe it was just going to be a one day thing! But it's not! Yay :) I keep forgetting to measure my body. I need to do that because I think it will show a huge change. My B.C. seems to be working wonderfully for me. I was on Loestrin before but the hormone level of Progestin was too high. My doctor told me it was causing the side effects. I thought it was because I was stressed out but it wasn't. I've been on Ortho for about five days and this is my second day in a row I haven't woken up with a migraine in about... 3 months. It's amazing. My doctor was exactly right. He lowered the Progestin and raised my Estrogen level. I'm much happier too. This is a huge breakthrough for me. Plus my sex drive is getting back to where it should have been! I mean I'm a newly wed! I'm not supposed to want to sleep instead of have sex! The perfect thing for me would to not be on B.C. but I really don't want babies right now. Speaking of babies I have a short uplifting story. Last week I was in the changing room at the gym after my work out and a pregnant lady came in to grab her stuff. From the back she looked like any normal woman and when she turned around I thought, awe sweet she's pregnant. I figured 5 months maybe because she was so fit and her belly wasn't hugely out of proportion! She was talking to her friend and she mentioned that she was due in February. That really put me in my place. Ever since I saw that I thought, I want to look like that when I'm pregnant. It was very inspiring! When I got out of changing my husband was like.. did you see that pregnant lady!? lol I have been thinking about getting meal supplement drinks, not to supplement a meal but to drink after working out. Would this work well? They are so full of good things I don't know why they wouldn't. |
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| #693 | paulajmcd |
Feb 05 2008 16:25 |
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Hi jredig and everyone else! You asked about my exercise/diet etc. I have never been on a diet before but have always tried to eat moderately healthy and have exercised regularly for the last decade. I used to run all the time but my knee just started to bother me so now for cardio I do a lot more elliptical, walking. I also weight train. I did get out of my regular routine over the past couple months with xmas, kids, travel, etc. but am anxious to get back to it. I am counting calories now to try to shave off a few pounds, and be healthy. I have always emphasized working out over food, but now want to try to gain control over both. My portion control needs work, as well as my excessive night snacking. Good luck to everyone here. This can definitely be a challenge so it's good that we have a place here to support each other. I fell off the wagon last night after almost one week of being really good. Darn hubby keeps a cabinet full of junk food/candy and I couldn't resist. Once I started, I felt like, what the heck, I've already ruined my diet for today lol I always seem to want to eat way above and beyond the amount of calories burned when I exercise. |
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| #694 | jredig |
Feb 05 2008 17:23 |
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simignonne- Glad to hear your B.C. is treating you so much better and you have a doctor that thought about it (a rarity is seems). Definately measure your body, it is really fun to see those numbers change. They always tide me over when the scale wont budge -- not that you are having any trouble with that :) hot pregnant women or fit women with little babies, always inspire me too (Like what is MY exuse, they did it and I have not even had any kids) I have not ever done any of the meal supplements (b/c $$) plus I like to chew food. But I think they are a great option (especially after a post-workout meal) and there are tons out there, varying from 300 calories to 1,000 calories (for those ectomorphs out there that find it hard to build). One of my firends (a guy) was drinking two of these 1, 000 calorie ones a day for a while when he was bulking -- he gained 20# of muscle within 6 mo but was eating 5,000 calories a day. ewww paulajmcd-- You will find company in other runners here :) like brianneo. I used to run 40+ miles a week but then stopped, got chunky and now you find me here counting calories. I would really recomend eating 5-6 meals a day, so you snack at night but healthy -- makes a big difference for me. I usually actually eat a bowl of nonfat yogurt, in bed, right before I go to sleep. :) Do not worry about your binge last night, we have all been there. when "just a bit" turns into the whole bag. Just make sure you do not over-restrict your calories today "to make up for it" this is the worst thing you can do for your metabolism. Eat healthy and what you planned origionally (net greater than 1200 calories). You will do great this week. BTW I am down (again) 137.2, I may up my calories to maintaince a few days this week, if I am still down tomorrow because that puts me at loosing over a pound a week since I started (Jan 1). And I do not want to burn muscle. And since I am not sure exactly how much I am burning on my bike commute to work it has been hard to estimate my expenditure, I may be over-restricting. |
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| #695 | rennai |
Feb 05 2008 17:34 |
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I weighed myself this morning, 130lbs go figure. I don't know if it will ever change :) I guess I should be happy though, I have a BMI of approx 19.2. Oh and I wore a fitted skirt and sweater to work today with 4 inch heels. My side profile looks pretty good :) I can tell working out has made my stomach appear smaller just because the muscles are stronger.
Paulajmcd- Good thinking with balancing diet and exercise. I don't think you can have one without the other really. Plus I think the American diet is generally too excessive (calorie content, portion size, lack of nutrition) so taking control is a wise idea. I've had surgery on my right knee so I can't do any high impact cardio either. I stick to elliptical, cycling and swimming. Try changing it up, I think you will have better results. simignonne- Congratulations on 129! My best friend had a baby at the beginning of December. She is about 5'4'' and only gained around 20 lbs. I was so jealous, I know I'm going to balloon when I have babies :) I took boudoir pictures of her last week for her husbands v-day gift and she looks so hot! She's already lost all the weight and almost has her old stomach back (the C section probably helped). Really impressive. |
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| #696 | brianneo |
Feb 05 2008 18:15 |
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hi guys! whew lots to get through since my last post on Friday. Nice to see the new faces! Simignonne, I love your idea of posting a goal to reach by the end of the month. unfortunately, I'll be going on my honeymoon in 3 days, and I KNOW that I'll be gaining instead of losing. So i'll pass for this month, but am definitely in by next month. I also recently got married too! Nov. 10! We're so excited to be going on our honeymoon. We're going to Europe - Munich, Germany and Prague, Czech Republic. We'll also spend a few days in Las Vegas and a day lay-over in Chicago on our way to and from Europe. Where did you guys go for your honeymoon? Speaking of kids, I think we may be ready soon!! I stopped taking BCP about 2 months before our wedding, but we're practicing Natural Family Planning. It's a method supported by catholic church where you measure your basil body temperature and mucus discharge to determine when your ovulating. If you want to avoid preganancy, you stop having intercourse for about 1 week when you ovulate. It's been working for us so far. And my body loves me for not being on BCP. I've been on that pill for almost 10 years! I'm at 130.8 this AM, but was at 129.8 on Friday. Go figure, I gained weight from all of the indulgence on Superbowl sunday. I have a goal of 125#. I think I want to be able to see 127 fairly regularly by mid-march. I think I can do it. Reading all of the helpful posts about protein really inspires me to keep my levels up. I know I really struggle with it. What are good food sources of protein besides nuts? I think from reading all of your posts it appears as if cottage cheese and yogurt are good sources. Any other suggestions? (besides protein powders, I really want to try to do this naturally first) |
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| #697 | jredig |
Feb 05 2008 18:41 |
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protein:
besides the obvious: chicken, turkey, lean beef, fish, pork chops, eggs whites less obvious: fat-free cottage cheese and yogurt; soy patties, dogs and burgers; tempeh; low carb tortillas; oat bran, Go Lean Kashi cereal (some of them), low fat cheese, fat-free milk, edamame, nuts, protein powders (they are from natural sources and you can find some organic ones on the market http://www.nextag.com/organic-protein-powder/search-html) The key is getting creative with your cooking and finding new flavors for the same ol' list. I had a blast on your honeymoon (it seems like everyone is going). I went to Jamaica for mine (2005) at Couples Swept Away, Negril. Fantastic time, I cried when we had to go home, silly I know :) enjoy your trip brianneo! And do not bother counting those calories. |
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| #698 | smiles1979 |
Feb 05 2008 18:54 |
Original Post by danareale: Well, I just found this topic...and was hoping to be able to join it. :D I have been on CC for a little while, but not had a lot of people to keep in touch with to help with support/motivation,etc. There are so many different goals and lifestyles on here that I have had a hard time finding a place to 'fit in'. I am not married and have no children right now..I'm 28, 5'5". Working on moving in with my boyfriend of 2 years hopefully by early-mid spring of this year... As for this topic...I'm on the higher end of 130's....I'm 137.6 lbs. as of yesterday. I am trying to get down to 120 lbs. by the start of summer (preferably early-mid June...if not sooner! :D). My current mini-goal is to reach at least 127 lbs. by March 24th (having a 'Biggest Loser' challenge w/ my stepdad). Anyway...hoping there's room for me here. :D Thanks! Also...trying to look for people I can add to my friends list to help with motivation for losing weight...but also for camaraderie of course.......basically...just lookin' for some friends. :D Anyway....thanks! |
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| #699 | simignonne |
Feb 05 2008 18:55 |
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My husband and I went to Savannah GA for our honeymoon and it was absolutely wonderful. The weather was perfect and the beach was beautiful. Honestly I don't think my weight changed that much that week because we walked everywhere we needed to go, which was a lot of walking. But walking leads to talking and there isn't anything I'd rather hear than his voice. Just make sure you walk around a lot on your honeymoon, maybe even an early morning run with him? But really don't worry about it, you guys are there to have a vacation with each other, not to focus on your dieting/exercising. Have a great time! I'm going to run a bit more today, maybe do some weights too and we will see where I am tomorrow! |
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| #700 | jredig |
Feb 05 2008 19:00 |
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welcome smiles!
I hope you find "fit" here. I think it is great to have a challenge with your step-dad. I think your goal sounds very resonable -- and here is hoping that you win :) Keep us posted on your progress, backslides and eveything else. |
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