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Views please?!? andybarc
  May 14 2008 20:50

Hi all,

Have been enjoying reading your posts for the last week and wondered if I could canvass some views on my new fat loss schedule. I am very particular in using the phrase fat loss, because weight isn't really a worry to me (though it can be a useful tool). I'm more interested in body shape and a feeling of overall health. I started this routine 10 days ago and have lost about 2lbs, though it is early days yet. The key for me was not too many lifestyle changes, and no need for trips to gym for example.

When I began, I sent myself an email to outline the plan. I have put this at the bottom of the post, for you to see. As you can tell, I gathered quite a big of information before starting (not all of it consistent with each other). Generally, it seems to be going well. Making myself eat breakfast and the exercise were the big changes, but I am now enjoying having 20 minutes or so in front of BBC news eating breakfast before work and am getting used to the exercise (though I am constantly revisiting the links to try and ensure I am doing the exercises correctly).

I'd love to say I can avoid booze, but that ain't going to happen, hence my making provision for it. I'm trying to limit myself to just one day including drink per week maximum. If I could just go a month dry though, that'd be a huge boost to the plan! But as I said, I didn't want to change too much to my lifestyle so as to avoid disillusionment.

Regarding the exercise, the wii fit is a bit of fun, but the yoga is particularly good after a workout to encourage me to stretch. The cycling, I change as per how I feel. HIIT can be a bit rough at times, so I do at least one full HIIT session per week and my absolute minimum on bike day is to burn 200 calories according to the machine. That takes between 20-30 minutes usually. I'm not letting myself cheat though (it would be tempting to say, well I played golf, so no need). The weights were a new thing for me. My first 3 sessions I used 3.5kg on each weight. For most exercises that was quite easy, but I was terrified of dropping one, or hurting myself. I went up to 5kg on each yesterday and lowered the reps a little. I think that was better. I simply have no idea what I should be looking at weight wise however. The scrunches are damn hard, but feels good to ahve done them. The lunges are a killer too!

As for food, I am sometimes a little over, sometimes a little under. I've not gone too crazy on the precision of my calorie intake, though I have infuriated friends at BBQs! (have you seen the calories in sausages!!!?). I've managed to keep a variety in my food (today for dinner - baked potato, 1 slice wholemeal, can crab meat, salad and slices ham!) and I am eating loads of fruit (those expensive pre-prepared ones!). I've not got into counting saturated fats, as I am confident there isn't much that I eat that is too bad, though I might increase my knowledge of what is particularly good to eat. I am/was a huge bread eater, so have cut that back quite a bit.

Well, I was hoping you guys might take a look and maybe pass comment or make suggestions. I'd particularly like to hear views on the weight training and on what sorts of foods might be worth looking at. I'm loving fish at the moment (trying to avoid bones though).

Anyway, thanks for looking - here's the email I mentioned.......

 

"Facts

My current weight = 16 stone 6 pounds (231 pounds)  

My current BMR (base metabolic rate) = 2210 calories per day (15470 per week)  

My current TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) = 2652 cals (18564 per week)

This is amount needed to sustain same weight.   "There are 3500 calories in a pound of stored body fat. If you create a 3500 calorie deficit in a week through diet, exercise or a combination of both, you will lose one pound."    

Diet and exercise Routine  

Food - aim for 1900 cals per day (752 cals less than TDEE = 5264 cals per week, 1.5lb of body fat burnt on diet change alone)  

Breakfast - Bowl of cereal (approx 300 cals) or 2 x toast brown (approx 200 cals for bread, 80 cals butter)- cup of tea (approx 15 cals)   snack - 150 cals  

Lunch - 1 1/2 w sandwich/ pitta (350) and packet crisps (130 cals) or a salad with w pitta bread  

Dinner - Normal meal. No fried foods - stick to fish or chicken, loads of veg (green best), very little starchy. Veg steamed or raw - aim for 800 cals   snack - 150 cals    

Nb. Alcohol Guinness has 210 calories (37 cals per 100ml) per pint (568 ml) and 30g of carbohydrates Bitter has approx 188 calories per pint and 12g of carbohydrates Red Wine has 119 calories per 175ml glass. 510 calories per bottle and 15g of carbohydrates Gin, vodka or whisky has 111 cals per 50 ml measure (tonic - 25 cals per 100ml, bitter lemon - 35 per 100 ml)   Even 1700 cals on booze would mean a net deficit of around 3500 calories per week      

Exercise - a mix of HIIT cardio, resistance and some wii fun  

Every day - at least 20 minutes of wii fit. Fun and handy for weighing scales.

3 x per week - dumbbell/resistance routine (see below). Resistance training builds muscle. Muscle needs more calories to maintain.  

3 x per week - at least 16 minutes exercise bike: vary intensity - not long and monotonous   "High Intensity Interval Training supercharges your metabolism and burns major amounts of calories. With a H.I.I.T routine, you will basically work in intervals of intensity through your workout. For example, if you're on the stationary bike, you will warm up for 2 minutes at about a 50% exertion rate. Then, for the next full minute you will go all out as fast as you can at about a 90%-95% exertion rate. Then, cool down for 30 seconds at about 50%-60% and do it all over again. Do this for the next 16 minutes and then finally cool down for the last 2 minutes at 50% exertion. Trust me, you will be absolutely burnt out at the end and will be screaming to get off the bike."   nb. Many sources suggest variations. EG. 30 second blasts with 30 seconds recovery. Best to start with this!

Resistance Routine  

1. Warm up on bike or jog for 5 minutes    

2. Chest - 'Dumbbell bench press'. 5 on each arm, then 10 together.       Remember exhale going up, inhale coming down   http://www.dumbbell-exercise.com/dumbbell-bench-press.htm    

3. Shoulders - 'Seated shoulder press'. 5 on each arm, then 10 together         Exhale up, inhale down   http://www.shapefit.com/shoulder-exercises-seated-dumbbell-p resses.html    

4. Back/Shoulders - 'Upright row'. 12 together       Exhale up, inhale down   http://www.dumbbell-exercise.com/dumbbell-upright-rows.htm    

5. Legs - 'Leg Squat'. 10 - 12   http://www.dumbbell-exercise.com/dumbbell-squats.htm    

6. Legs - 'Lunges' 8-10 each leg   http://www.dumbbell-exercise.com/dumbbell-lunges.htm    

7. Triceps - 'Extensions' 10 together  http://www.dumbbell-exercise.com/dumbbell-tricep-extensions. htm   

and   'single arm extensions' 10 on each arm http://www.shapefit.com/triceps-exercises-one-arm-supinated- dumbbell-triceps-extensions.html     

8. Torso/abs - 'bicycle crunches' 20 http://www.dumbbell-exercise.com/bicycle-crunches.htm    and  

ADD MORE WEIGHT HERE  

'dumbbell oblique side bends' 10 each arm http://www.shapefit.com/abs-exercises-dumbbell-side-bends.ht ml    

9. Biceps - 'Concentration curls' 10 on each arm, then 5 on each arm   http://www.shapefit.com/biceps-exercises-concentration-curls .html    

10. Exercise bike HIIT for 3 minutes, then 2 minute warm down"

 

 

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#1 mish_arsenau May 14 2008 21:16

looks good to me. I don't know how important the crips are for you, but substituting in an apple, banana, or some carrot sticks would be lower cal, and more nutrients.

The exercise looks good. Nice mix of exercies, and looks as though you are covering most muscle groups.

HIIT training is tough, but definitely worth the work. I have really liked the outcome of training this way.

Good luck with your healthy journey!!

#2 cellophane_star May 14 2008 21:18
I can comment on your food plan:

Breakfast - You should really add some protein source in there, like milk, yogurt or eggs. You will feel fuller for longer. 

Lunch -  Crisps are just empty calories. A more nutritious and satisfying choice would be veggies or yogurt.   

Dinner - You would have to have HUGE portions of chicken and veggies to get to 800 calories. It's also best to have your largest meal early in the day and have a smaller dinner. Your 800 cal dinner budget is larger than your breakfast & lunch combined!     
#3 andybarc May 14 2008 21:23

Thanks for the comments and good wishes. You'll be pleased to know that I have actually already ditched the crisps! I figured that a big stack of fruit was nicer all around!

I should have mentioned that the cereal is eaten with a fair old helping of milk. Is that enough? or should I add more?

Re. the 800 cal dinner, that is born out of habit a little and the fact that I exercise at around 5pm and feel I need the calories more afterwards. Do you think that makes a difference? I find it hard to eat too much early on in the day, especially at lunch time when I have to return to work. How might I get around it?

thanks

#4 cellophane_star May 14 2008 22:04
Personally, I find that since I"ve added more protein to breakfast, I'm not hungry for hours afterward so I snack less before lunch. Before, I used to have cereal & milk. Now I have oatmeal + soy milk or eggs + cereal and I feel way more satisfied.

I'm trying to break out of a big dinner habit as well! And I exercise around the same time. A pre and post workout snack makes all the difference. A 200 cal snack like yogurt, 1/2 bagel with peanut butter, etc. really works for me.
#5 andybarc May 14 2008 23:54

Is it the soy milk that has the protein? That would be an easy change

#6 cellophane_star May 15 2008 02:40
Soy milk and cow milk have around the same amount of protein. Try to find a cereal that has ~5g or more of protein per serving. Most whole grain cereals would have it.
#7 andybarc May 15 2008 18:36

Going to try some muesli for a few days. Is that any good?

#8 cellophane_star May 15 2008 19:54
It's good but be careful of your portion size (same with granola). According to CC, 3/4 of a cup has 230 cals. http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item/83431.html
#9 samesofam May 16 2008 18:01

more veggies! fruit is good, but it has a lot of sugar and is higher in calories than veggies. i would say to try to incorporate them into your lunch (maybe spinach, tomato, sprouts, or cucumber on your sandwich), snack, and dinner. otherwise, looks good to me!

#10 patsu May 16 2008 19:23
Original Post by andybarc:

Thanks for the comments and good wishes. You'll be pleased to know that I have actually already ditched the crisps! I figured that a big stack of fruit was nicer all around!

I should have mentioned that the cereal is eaten with a fair old helping of milk. Is that enough? or should I add more?

Re. the 800 cal dinner, that is born out of habit a little and the fact that I exercise at around 5pm and feel I need the calories more afterwards. Do you think that makes a difference? I find it hard to eat too much early on in the day, especially at lunch time when I have to return to work. How might I get around it?

thanks

Hi Andybark,

     It looks like you've already received some good advice and I'm not one who could comment on the excersise being a recovering couch potatoe.  I am however a product of eatting late all my 64 years and over 40 of those years I was UNDERWEIGHT.  If you find that you really can't eat much early, don't worry about it.  Some peoples metabolisms are just different.  As to the alcohol, I've continued to have my red wine night cap but allow for it so that my calories are still balanced.  I think that learning to keep alcohol in moderation is an art.  My grandmother was an alcolohic and my mother was terrified of ANY kind of "spirits" so I was raised in a "tea-totalling" household.  But here are a few things I've found.  When you are in a social group who is drinking have one of your usual drinks (a mixed drink works best here) then for you next "round" order the exact same drink but without the booze.  No one but you knows and there is no uncomfortable moment for your friends. (As a woman, I learned that one when I was pregnant.)  OR, be the designated driver and have your nightcap at home.  If you are able to relax & joke and have a good time w/o the booze, everyone will think you are as drunk as they are.  (A real down side of this is that you'll see what having toooo much to drink does to people and will never want to be in that state again. <G>

Good luck,

Grandma Patsu

 

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