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I feel like I'm starving! heather67
  May 14 2008 18:49

I'm a 41 year old woman and I've lost 12 pounds since March (about 3 months).  I know I'm not starving.  I'm eating around 1800 calories a day or more, but right after I eat something, I'm scoping out the next thing to eat.  I rarely feel full.  I want to eat everything.  How do I tame my hunger?  I have 3 full meals a day plus 3 or more snacks between so I eat about 6-7 times every day. 

I try to eat mostly healthy foods like homemade whole wheat bread and brown rice, but the Skinny Cow Ice Cream Sandwiches are very good so I have a couple of those per week.  I have been eating fairly low-fat choices.  I keep my fat grams around 20 to 30 a day.  I'm on a "Healthy Lifestyles" program in Montana to prevent diabetes and it suggests I keep my fat grams under 33. 

It's been great to lose a little weight but I only lose about 1-2 pounds a week.  (Isn't that the ideal?)  My BMI is down to 24.5 (from 27).  I thought that I'd get used to eating less and not feel so hungry but it hasn't happened so far.

I get moderate exercise of about an hour a day but it's pretty tame, like walking during lunch, or riding my bike to work (10 min).  I'm hoping to work up to some cardio soon but I'm so tired all of the time.  I'm a teacher so when school gets out for the summer in 2 weeks I'll have more time to pursue that.  I'm pretty burned out at school, home, and church, too.

I'm hoping to lose about 10 more pounds but I've hit a bit of a plateau for the last 2-3 weeks.  It's tough to stick to something so hard when I can't see any results right now and my family (and I) want something non-lowfat for dinner.

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#1 fyrfli May 14 2008 19:55

so have it! alot of people have mentioned having a high cal day or 2 a week to break thru a plateau. I have barely started losing weight so i havnt tried this yet myself (i cant wait tho lol).

#2 odie03 May 14 2008 20:40

Yes, def do that, but don't go over 2400. I've also been told eating close to NO carbs one day per week works too. And I know you dont want to hear this but it's probably time to decrease your cals again. For every 10 lbs you are supposed to lower your cal intake. Im hungry too girl. Starving over here! It's def getting easier. I've yet to eat my recommended 1200 but I am getting closer. SF jello goes a long way, oatmeal keeps you full longer, protein & fats with every meal helps. Try to avoid those lowfat ice cream treats. Couple times a week okay but I just dont have that in my house because it would be calling my name all day. Instead replace it with fruit. Strawberries are very low cal and great with splenda. 1 oz of nuts per day, 2% cheese slice, whole grains.. whatever you can find. I just look for the lowest cals possible with the largest amount of nutrition, that way you are making sure every cal counts.

Sounds like your doing great though. Best wishes!

#3 heather67 May 14 2008 21:22

Thanks for the advice.  I guess I just need to find the foods that make me feel full (any more suggestions?).  I guess I will look at lowering my calorie intake too, although I'm not very excited about that.

Thanks for your support!

#4 missfairfax May 14 2008 21:41

I find it really helpful if I eat meals with high protein. I'm not sure what the dietary recommendations are for diabetes. I get very full on a baked chicken breast with 1/4 cup of brown rice. I have the weight control oatmeal, non fat yogurt, and cottage cheese. Also, the low sodium soups. Sometimes a cup of soup between meals really helps me get through a day where I'm ravenous. (usually the week before my period) Anything with fiber, like an apple, some raw granola over non fat yogurt, or a fiber one bar helps me.

You can also try Spirutein shakes. They are not a diet shake, but they have spirulina in them along with alot of other vitamins and minerals. The spirulina helps me fill full, and keeps my blood sugar on an even keel.

I'm just getting started, but I do plan to have one day of the week where I have what I want for one meal. Maybe a dessert too, in order to help cravings the rest of the week. I have always busted my diets by being too restrictive.

Good luck.

 

#5 heather67 May 14 2008 21:43

Those are great suggestions.  I'll try them out.  Thanks!

#6 victoriagirl May 14 2008 22:16

Maybe you feel so hungry because your body is demanding something it needs...are you physically hungry, or psychologically craving food? Personally I have a hard time separating these, so I have to be really careful about staying within my daily targets, I am learning to listen to real body cues but am not there yet.

That said, it sounds more like you are actually physically hungry. On 1800 calories daily, a very low-fat diet would be about 15 or 20% from fat, which translates to 30-40g of fat, but a more reasonable level is 25-30%, which is 50-60g of fat. These ideally come from "good" fats, like nuts, fatty fish like salmon, olive oil, etc. Maybe your body is demanding more of something it needs. Fat in food is not the enemy - we need it - it's just important to watch where it comes from and not to excess.

Also...I find that the balance that keeps me most satisfied AND losing weight consistently has a relatively high proportion of protein (27%). I love proteins! Chicken, pork, fish, low-fat cheeses and yohurt, nuts and seeds make up most of my proteins. Some dinners I skip the carb entirely and just have a double portion of meat with a big pile of veggies (usually on days I had a sandwich for lunch and crackers for snack...) it's a good balance and works really well for me. With all the lean protein choices we have today, the fat stays within a reasonable limit too. And honestly, I have never had any guest complain when I seved them a grilled pork tenderloin with bbq sauce, broccoli and mushroom stir-fry, and a side of wild rice medley, and complain that it's low-fat. Well my guest is usually my bf and he loves what i cook so I guessed that's a little biased :)

Of course there are different proportions that work best for different people, your post just struck me because I used to be all about the low-fat and it really ended up coming back and biting me on the patootie. I was always hungry and that way of life was just not sustainable for me, so I ended up falling off the wagon, and likely messing up my metabolism to boot...so in conclusion, lol, I would like to repeat fat is not the enemy.

And after all that...I sometimes actually have my fat levels so low in a day, that I actually decide to go ahead and butter something, just for fun! I guess the low-fat habit is hard to break. I have a bunch of recipes I have made to be low cal/low fat, though not too too low fat, if you are interested....like jalapeno mushroom burgers. I use bulgur wheat and mushrooms to replace some of the beef, they are delish!

#7 victoriagirl May 14 2008 22:20

Also are you drinking enough water? Sometimes our bodies confuse thirst for hunger. Just a thought.

#8 liswobble May 14 2008 23:03
I too have a hard time being hungry. My body seems to have a set preferred intake of 2300 and I can maintain quite well...but to lose weight I've cut my calories to 2000 and it's hard! 1800?....I just wouldn't have the strength. hat's off.

Here are things that help me, though they may be just personal:

Eat protein for breakfast - carbs like cereal or oatmeal make me hungry faster. Like this morning i ate a turkey, egg beaters and cheese burrito on a low carb tortilla. it was 250 calories. Maybe I'm just weird though b/c my favorite breakfast is beef fajita tacos on  soft corn tortillas. It gives me energy all morning! It must be the iron.

Don't drink too much coffee - it makes me jittery and hungry to drink any at all. :(

Eating a little fat can make your brain happy! - A while back my best friend convinced me it is okay to eat judicious amounts of plant fats. After low-fat for so long I was sooo happy once I added back some fat! What a mood elevator. but the way to do it is, do not saute things in any oil. This is because pam works fine and you can't really taste the oil once it has been cooked anyway. Put the oil right on top of your food, for instance 1 teaspoon of olive oil drizzled on steamed veggies and pasta on your plate gives a ton of flavor. Or last night I had a tuna steak cooked in a pan sprayed with pam, then I cooked some garlic and herbs with a little water in the pan to scrape up the brown bits, and then added 1 teaspoon of olive oil after I had taken the pan off the heat and poured it over the tuna. It tasted so rich and olive-oily! Nuts and avocados are also good.

Eat less refined carbs and grains - not b/c you should do a high-protein diet, but b/c these carbs are calorie-dense and also make you hungry faster. They're basically your worst enemy if you are trying to economize your calories. I end up with 3-4 servings of grains a day and the rest of my carbs come from beans, fruit and veggies, and even as a bread lover I am perfectly happy.      
#9 heather67 May 15 2008 04:27

Yes, I get enough water.  I fill my water bottle several times a day at work. 

I think victoriagirl is right.  I probably need to increase my fat intake.  I have been craving almonds forever but they are so high in fat that I avoid them so I don't use up all of my allowed fat in one sitting.  The program only allows me 33 grams per day.

This program is the first to work for me in a long time.  Probably because I have to turn in my eating and exercise journal every week.  Being held accountable makes me follow more carefully.

I caved in and ate 2200 calories today.  I feel good now but I could still eat my whole kitchen if I allowed myself.  The only thing stopping me is that I have to weigh in tomorrow.

Thanks for everyone's encouragement and patience.  I really appreciate all of your help.

#10 heather67 May 15 2008 04:32

I think maybe I'll try more protien in the morning like you suggest, liswobble.  I totally avoid coffee and all caffeine.  I get too jittery and my legs have to do the cha-cha all the time if I have any.  Even chocolate can cause it (restless leg?) if I eat it late enough in the day.  Then I can't sleep because I can't hold still.

I avoid refined carbs too.  I like the whole grain products I can make or buy.  Thanks!

#11 heather67 May 15 2008 04:35

I would love to see some of your recipes, victoriagirl!!  Thanks!

#12 alevin May 15 2008 07:11

I second the recommendation on adding healthy fats. They make a huge difference for me in feeling satisfied and not hungry.

#13 hanmick May 15 2008 13:41

 High (really high)  protein shakes,  just water, ice and fruit in the blender with Met-Rx Protein,  every two hours,  will keep the physical hunger away.  Cravings for "Tasty treats"  can only be overcome through exercise,  30-40 mins per day,  and other activities that can't coincide with eating, gets your mind off food food food.

#14 hanmick May 15 2008 13:46

You are doing great at 1-2 pounds per week. BTW,  any weight loss must be sustained for 6 months or your body will gain it back.  So set your calendar.

#15 hanmick May 15 2008 13:47

Protein shakes keep well in a thermos throughout the day.

#16 heather67 May 15 2008 15:44

Thanks, hanmick, for your protien shake idea.  I'll get over to our tiny health-food store today to see if they have any protien powder in their bulk section.  Miles City, MT is only about 9000 people strong but we even have a Walmart.  Billings is only 2 hours away so if I can't find what I need here, I can go there one of these weekends.

I ate an egg white omlet with red bell pepper for breakfast today, along with dry WW toast, some strawberries and skim milk.  I feel pretty satisfied this morning.  It sure beats the feeling of a full stomach but hungry mouth.

#17 mrsdagle May 15 2008 15:53

I agree with the fats suggestions and second your desire to eat almonds.  I keep a stash of pistachios which are 200 calories per 1/4 cup.  I eat them to either satiate my hunger (when I'm at risk to binge) or to augment my calories (when I'm not that hungry).  I think pistachios are cheaper and have a sweet taste to them too. 

I don't know if it fits with a diabetic diet but I will "eat" a bowl of V-8 juice heated up like tomato soup, with garlic powder sprinkled in it.  Cheap way to get in veggies and soups have a way of filling us up. 

#18 heather67 May 15 2008 17:24

Great idea with the V-8/soup.  I'll try it!  Thanks.

#19 liswobble May 15 2008 17:50
hey heather,

I read what you ate for breakfast. What would you normally eat for breakfast and what is your daily calorie intake? I'm sitting here thinking gee wiz, so where does she actually attain 33 grams of fat in a day? hehe. Comparing it to my day's food log  - which is exactically 2001 calories and contains whole milk, whole fat cheese, coconut milk and walnuts and is still 24% fat which I consider entirely respectable. But then I looked again and sure enough that comes to me eating about 59 grams of fat today.

So I can see your dilemma. You are on a seriously low-fat diet. Well if that's the case, if I were in your position I would do exactly what you are doing. I'd cut all the fat where it doesn't count (eat egg whites, skim milk, etc.) and put it where I can taste it, like in a handful of almonds as part of my midmorning snack, or a drizzle of olive oil on my plate at dinner, or a scoop of guacamole on my baked potato.   
#20 liswobble May 15 2008 17:52
okay I saw it's 1800 calories. carry on.
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