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No pain, no gain? odie03
  May 10 2008 19:02

I exercise alot, (recently). I have an ab roller that I love. (In addition to other forms of abdominal exercise.) So it used to be that I could do 2 sets of 20 and not be able to stand up straight for a couple of days. Now I do like 3 sets of 50, crunches, reverse crunches,...etc, etc, etc and I'm just not sore anymore. I do know that your body adapts to whatever you give it very quickly so am I not benefitting if I'm not sore? And should I look for other types of abdominal exercise and push the ab roller aside?

Or do you just reach a point to where that muscle is not going to be sore?

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#1 walkingcoffeegirl May 11 2008 01:34

as you lose, i think you have to increase reps to keep on losing. i could be totally wrong! but i'm pretty sure i remember reading that somewhere.

#2 melkor May 11 2008 02:01
Pain is a terrible measure of progress. The only thing that counts is doing better than last time at your chosen exercise.

 The ab roller - uh, we're talking one of those wheel thingies you roll out in front of you, right? That's a good tool for strength and balance, and if it's not working so well for you anymore, try making the exercise a bit more difficult by only having one leg on the ground at a time. Or add a backpack or weighted vest for extra resistance.

 That said, real core strength comes from doing squats and deadlifts, not isolation exercises. You'd want to add those to your training regime if you aren't already doing them - ab work and other auxiliary exercises are helpful but they're 'extra credit'. You'll have better results if you do the real core work first and then fit the auxiliary exercises in ;)
#3 cheball12 May 11 2008 03:11

I definately agree with what melkor is saying about the squats and deadlifts. I am not so sure about the pain thing however, after a good workout I usually feel sore and friends I have that have weight lifted for years still "feel it" the morning after kind of thing although pain is a poor measure of progress if I worked out and didn't feel sore the next morning even just slightly I would increase weight or reps the next time I hit the gym (haha but I love that morning after feeling from the gym). Also your body will adapt to your workout and your workout will slowly become less effective but it should still have some effect, in my oppinion you have become strong enough with those workouts to move onto the more serious things such as deadlifts not that the abroller isn't useful I just think that other workouts would provide a more effective workout.  

#4 kieslings2501 May 12 2008 05:15

Melkor and Cheball are right on...here's my two cents...

  Try using an exercise ball to work out your abs. There's a lot of exercises available online. My favorite is the "prayer". You pretty much roll the ball out with your elbows shoulder width apart and clasp your hands in front of you. 

  One I still have trouble doing came from Women's Health...you find a platform about 6 inches up and start out doing a plank. Then you do a push-up and as you're going down, you lift a leg towards your elbows. Killer! Don't forget, you can do as many crunches as possible, but you also have to have good form and you have to work out your lower back. Cardio is also great for overall toning.

  Lastly, and my mother would be proud, is to work on your posture. Funny, but it helps keep those muscles you work so hard tight and toned all day long.

So, those are my cents. Hope they help!

#5 odie03 May 12 2008 12:47

What is a deadlift?

#6 fitdan May 12 2008 16:24
I have an ab wheel.  It got to where I could easily use the ab wheel and I wanted to increase the difficulty to keep ab muscles growing.  I have a 20lbs weight vest that really makes it more of a challenge.  If you don't have a weight vest you might try other creative ways to add weight to your upper body.  You can also search online for excercises to do with the ab wheel that add to the difficulty.  I saw a sight one time a while back that you can probably find pretty easily on google.
#7 floggingsully May 12 2008 20:21
Original Post by odie03:

What is a deadlift?

 This is a deadlift.

Front and overhead squats will also hit your abs really well.

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