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I am sick of all these topic posts with skinny girls complaining& nbsp;about their "disgusting legs" or "flabby stomachs" even though their BMI's are in unhealthy ranges and how they need to be even skinnier.

These kinds of posts waste our time and are disheartening to teens like me who are actually obese, who aren't fine at the weight they are and NEED to lose. If I don't lose weight, it's not about prom, or boys, or fitting into those 00 pants. It's about LIFE or DEATH. It's about heart disease and diabetes, not vanity. 

Seriously, use the tools on Calorie Counter and check your BMI. If you are healthy, there is NO REASON to try and lose weight. Stick to healthy eating, try some weight training and GET LOST. Get a counselor if you feel so disgusted with your appearance. And save us your breath. 

As for me, I would love to be 140 or 150. Hell I'd love to be 160. I would kill to be 120. Girls like me cry themselves to sleep wishing they could be you skinny girls. You don't know how lucky you healthy girls are.

For those who complain about being 120, try to imagine being 180 or over. Try to imagine not being able to wear your mom's clothes because you are too big. You can't share sweaters with your friends because you shop in Lane Bryant while they shop at Hollister. Boys look at you and grimace. People openly tease you and despise you for being bigger than them. Try living that life every day for years. Then, yo may be justified in talking about losing weight. 

If the doctor says you're fine, you're fine. If not, alter your habits.  

I NEED to lose weight. But in all honesty I'm trying out of vanity. Sure I'm at a high risk for diabetes and heart problems. Yes I've had osteoarthritis for years and it's spreading. Of course my knees are bad because of my weight.

But damnit I want to look good too.

some of those girls who complain about being flabby probably have an EATING DISORDER. A mental illness, for God's sake, you can't blame them. There's also BDD where people don't see their bodies as they are in reality. Being underweight can be as painful as being overweight, sometimes, so just remember that. We get made fun of, ignored by boys, can't sit on hard surfaces, and can't share clothes either.

Please be considerate to the members who may be struggling with their body image.

i absolutely agree. i know that a lot of those girls do have problems and i appreciate that, but damn do i feel like a whale when i read some of these posts.

I weigh 152 lbs.  I don't think I'm huge or anything, but I am considered overweight considering I'm barely 5'3".  The only reason I'm on this site is because every female in my family is over 200 lbs.  I have nothing against overweight or obese people by any means, but I don't want to be too tired to chase after my children or play with my dog.  I've watched my own mother's life go downhill because all she does is sit at the computer all day and complain about her weight.  When I'd ask her to go workout with me she complained about her feet hurting.  Her weight caused her to get heel spurs in both of her feet.  So you see?  Not everyone on here just wants to lose weight for vain reasons.  Although everyone wants to have a good appearance, not everyone bases there life on it.  I know I don't.  So kudos to the people actually trying to lose weight for deeper reasons rather than for pure superficiality. :]

You have a lot more in common with those girls than you realize Pali.

You both want to change. You both want something you see as better. You both are at least slightly unhappy with your body image. You both want to make life better for yourself. You both see the change as a way to increase your satisfaction in life. You both want to be "sexier". You both are envious of others who have what you deem as perfection.

I read your profile before I wrote anymore and I take it that you're probably just having a bad day. I hope you're doing alright. Whats happened today? What broke the camels back?

Now, are you being fair? Why is being in the healthy range mean that there is no reason to lose weight? Maybe you're at the high end of the healthy range and would like to slim down to the lower end? Maybe they want to go out for a new sport and the lower weight and bmi would help (athletes tend to have low bodyfat). There are endless possibilities. Maybe they are just skinny bitches but really I doubt it.

You say it's not about prom or boys but I'm calling your bluff. I know that there are more important things than those, things that mean so much more like a life where you don't have to go through the pains you've witnessed your family suffer through heart disease and diabetes. Like a life where you can be proud of who you are and how you look and what you've achieved. A life that you can live fully without limitation. I think that boys and prom are a part of that life though. They will allow you to grow, to learn, to show your self confidence and to enjoy life. Just because your aspirations NEED to be bigger than other peoples doesn't mean that theirs are any less valid. Wanting to be more attractive, to feel better about yourself, isn't that tied to what you're doing? You said so in your profile. There is nothing wrong with that. Your aspirations are noble and I have a lot of respect for your reasons and desire to lose weight but I don't think that makes you any more worthy of posting here than anyone else.

What is wrong with a 120 lb girl wanting to lose 10 lbs? How do you know what weight she started at? Maybe she has her own issues that make this last 10 or this first 10 lbs really hard to get off? Is she less entitled to help because you consider her to be at a healthy weight and are envious of it? What if she started at 200 lbs, got down to 120 and has had a hard time losing that extra little bit that will make her happy and self confident? Is that wrong? Is she less entitled to help and to voicing her opinion?

I need to get across a point - you're lashing out by writing this. I'm not sure what caused it but you are spreading misery either intentionally or otherwise. You're bringing others down because you could not deal with something. That's not fair to anyone else. Why do they deserve it? What have they done to get in your way? Did they say something hurtful to you? Or did they just complain about something that you took personally?

With perseverance and diligence you can achieve your goals. But to do so in a healthy and positive manner you'll have to understand that the world is not against you. That there are always going to be different people with different problems and those problems don't all affect you directly. You need to allow others to be who and what they are. If you don't like them then you can always choose to steer clear of their posts.

P.S - Let's talk this out. Tell us whats been going on lately. What's new in your life?

wow Great topic, somebody needed to bring this up. I'm 16 and weigh 210. I would love to be down to 180. I would loooove to be 140 though thats what I really want to weigh and is what is healthy for me.

"decarswell" I love you for writing that!

Don't forget that this is a FREE website and everyone is entitled to use it that has signed up for it. If you want everyone to be unhealthily over weight that uses the site you use, you will probably have to pay for it. You obviously don't like being judged so why judge others?

I joined this site at over 150 I'm not extremly overweight but I was eating extremly unhealthy and gained 45 pounds in 5 years, I do not by any means want to be back to 105 like I was in high school but I also do not want to be on the road to diabetes, high cholesterol, and high blood pressure that plagues my family, I would rather be underweight and completly healthy than at my "healthy weight" and eating completly unhealthy.  Is that so horribly wrong?

Hi Palipride47 ~

Calorie Count Plus's mission is to promote healthy and sustainable weight management.  This includes everyone regardless of their age, weight, height, or race.  Everyone is welcome on Calorie Count so long as they are following CC's mission and Posting Guidelines. 

Due to the fact that Calorie Count IS so large, there are threads for everyone.  You could start a group for members similar to you (age, height, weight, goals).  If you find a thread that does not interest you, simply ignore it and move on to one that is more appropriate for your goals and interests.  If there is a specific member that you wish to not see their posts, then use the block function.

Calorie Count is not only for weight loss but also for weight maintenance and weight gain. 

I also wanted to point out that just because someone is within a healthy BMI doesn't mean that they do not have health problems.  Health problems can occur in all ages, heights, and weights.

Also, please understand that telling someone to "get lost" because they, too, aim to be healthier (no matter where they may be on the BMI scale) is not acceptable.  We are all here for similar reasons regardless our BMI, ultimately we all want to be healthier. 

If you feel that there is a thread violating CC's missions or guidelines or a member that is here for the wrong reasons, please use the Report Violation button at the top of the thread or PM a moderator for review.

Thank you,

~ UTR
Volunteer Moderator

According to my BMI, I'm overweight.

I hide my weight very well and a lot of my friends tell me "you're fine".

But my body knows how much I weigh when I huff and puff after walking up two flights of stairs, I feel sluggish and my clothes size went up 4 sizes.

While skinny is not always healthy, you can't judge a book by its cover.

Keep discussing.  It's important to talk about this kinda stuff!

It is a great topic!

decarswell- thank you for writing what you did. It's a great reminder for all of us. Whether it’s jealously or just a bad day, I have felt that same as Pali.

Palipride47 - I know exactly where you are coming from. I need to lose over 100lbs to get to by BMI. When you have such a looong way to go, its hard to understand the challenges of 'thin' people. I put thin in quotes, because 'thin' is an individual perception. 

I think when you’re so caught up (like I do) in your own weight problem, is easy to forget about what other people might be going through.

Well, this was a rant. Next time I won't lash out on a forum. I understand that some people do have health issues despite looking "thin" (like diabetes or such) and some people have eating disorders. I had one myself. I just got caught up in the whole mess of things, particularly family issues again. I just read my post again today. That definitely wasn't me thinking straight. I apologize to whomever I offended

I was about to say, because that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Just because you're in the NBA, does that mean you stop practicing? No, even those who are doing quite well still need to practice to maintain and improve.

It's not only people who are at a health risk that wish to do better. Everyone wants self improvement, and it's just as ignorant for either situation to lash out at the other.

Not wanting to offend anyone, but I do have a question for the author of the post. It does take time to gain that much weight. Do you have a medical condition or is your weight a result of your poor choices? Or, since you are still a teen, a result of your parents' poor choices for you?

I see a significant difference between being overweight for medical reasons and being overweight because you are just unwilling to control yourself. Again, not wanting to offend anyone, but when I start to gain weight, I try to turn it around BEFORE I am heavy and unhealthy.

I have always been slim but that, I believe, is not because I am lucky, but rather because I work hard to be this way. I exercise (and yes, I sometimes would kill to sleep until 8 instead of 6-30 and a run with my dog) but it seems unfair to blame your being heavy on others who aren't.

Please do not get me wrong: I admire people who are able to lose weight because I know how extremely difficult it is. But you are being ignorant when saying that those who are slim have no right to be here.

I used to feel very discouraged to read posts by people who are in a healthy BMI since I am like you - at an overweight BMI and struggling to feel good about myself.

Now I've decided that there are two kinds of weight loss - weight loss for health in order to get to a healthy BMI - and "vanity pounds" losing a few more pounds to look better.  Personally, I think losing vanity weight is silly, and I think I will look just fine at my goal weight, but I respect those that are.  There are also those on this site who don't realize they are underweight - I hope they get the guidance they need.

Don't let those posts get you down. 

I, like many others, are annoyed with the "OMGZ I ate a carrot im going to get teh fat", but I feel bad with people who seriously hate their body so much that they starve themselves to death. It is a disorder, just like depression (which I myself posess, before anyone jumps on me for calling it a disorder) or OCD.

However, the way you make it sound is pretty unfair, because you're calling out several people who are healthy, but want to lose a couple pounds. I'm within a "healthy" range, but I would like to lose 5 or ten pounds to tone up. I think you need to understand that. I can see where you're coming from and see why you're angry, but tone it down a bit =)

EDIT - whoops, just saw your other post. I'm glad you saw how big of a trigger you pulled, and it's okay. I can understand where your frustration comes from.

You have to think of it in the opposite way... people like us, who are in the largely obese range... how did we become this way?

In my case for instance, my mother overcompensated for having little to eat as a child. Things took a turn for the worse for many years and I comforted myself by gobbling up anything we had, drinking any sugary, comforting drinks we had. Feeling sad? Grab a couple microwave burritos or have a whole bag of tostitos and salsa with cheese.

Can someone honestly tell me that compulsive/comfort overeating is not in itself some sort of disorder? Just because we haven't starved ourselves into malnutrition or lacking periods doesn't mean we didn't do harm: Look at the risk for heart disease, diabetes, joint problems, and breathing problems we've put ourselves at. We're both just as unhealthy and looking for change to a happy medium.

it is saddening to see someone with, say, anorexia lapsing a little, or running tons of miles to make up for a minuscule amount of food. I'm sure it makes me a little angry when someone in the low end of their health range pinches their fat in front of me (cough my aunt) and says "god I'm so flabby and fat" when I'm sitting there in my 256 lbs of glory, seething. Think about it from an obesity perspective too though..

I have a friend who can eat and eat and I don't really see her stop to take breaths. I hear her snorting and gasping for air as she shoves food in by the fistful and she just doesn't stop chewing to speak. Seeing that makes me just as sad an angry as someone starving themself.

Wow I've gone on a tangent o-o but yeah.. we're all in the same boat here. Let's just try to make change and be healthier people in the end. That's what we all want.

Palipride I am with you in this one.  I do understand that there are some people who would like to lose a few pounds and keep within a healthy BMI, but I am sick to death of people who are asking for help in losing weight when their BMI is already under 20.  Having been morbidly obese myself, I understand where you are coming from, and it does sound harsh to the 20-25 BMI people who worry about 10lb, but I understand your frustration.  However, to the 20-25 BMI crowd, it upsets them just as much when they have difficulty in losing the last 10lb, and feel just as bad as we do. I think they should have their own forum topic "People who's BMI is under 25" that way, we won't visit that section.  Its like on yahoo answers, I get fed up with people constantly asking "Could I be pregnant" in the pregnancy forum.  Anyway, I am being judgemental now, but sometimes I think that anyone who asks for help in losing weight to take their BMI under 20 should have their post deleted, and referred to psychiatrist.  It seems that some people do this because they want other people to go "Oh no, you don't need to lose weight, your beautiful" but its an annoying way to get attention. Sorry, I am being really harsh here, and I know I have issues as well.

Mashenka, people dont gain weight just because they are "unwilling to control yourself" overeating can be caused by a mental disorder just as anorexia is, and it is unfair to label people that way.  I had a similar discussion with my boss once, who said "Why would you let yourself get that big?" but no matter what I said, she would not understand that it wasn't a lack of self control that caused some people to gain weight.  Of course, there are a few people out there who did gain weight because they are lazy, but not everyone.

Original Post by spankyraven:

 anyone who asks for help in losing weight to take their BMI under 20 should have their post deleted, and referred to psychiatrist.

a healthy bmi is between 18.5 and 25.